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Purpose

Add documentation to help users properly configure max_lora_rank parameter to avoid performance issues.

Context

As discussed with @jeejeelee , in multi-LoRA serving scenarios, max_lora_rank must be set to accommodate the largest rank among all LoRA adapters that might be loaded. However, setting it unnecessarily high wastes memory and can cause performance issues.

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Added a new section "Configuring max_lora_rank" at the end of docs/features/lora.md that explains:

  • How to set the parameter correctly for multi-LoRA scenarios
  • Performance implications of setting it too high
  • Examples of good vs bad configuration
  • What happens when a LoRA's rank exceeds the configured limit

Case:

  • Default max_lora_rank is 16
  • When set higher than actual adapter rank, causes memory over-allocation and performance loss
  • Users often don't realize this misconfiguration is causing slowdowns

Why this causes performance degradation:

  • vLLM pre-allocates GPU memory tensors based on max_lora_rank for all LoRA operations
  • When max_lora_rank > actual rank, the system allocates more tensors
  • During inference, Punica kernels (lora_shrink/lora_expand) compute on the entire pre-allocated tensor
  • This results in some wasted computation on zero-padded values
  • Large tensors also cause L2 cache thrashing (hit rate drops)
  • Memory bandwidth becomes saturated moving unnecessary zeros

Performance comparison (production workload A100-80GB):

  • Gemma-3-27B + rank=16 LoRA
  • With max_lora_rank=256: 3.649s per request
  • With max_lora_rank=16: 2.292s per request
  • 59% performance improvement after fixing configuration

Memory usage:

  • With max_lora_rank=256: 3.18GB GPU memory for LoRA
  • With max_lora_rank=16: 0.20GB GPU memory for LoRA
  • 15.9x memory reduction

(Optional) Documentation Update

Not required - this is a diagnostic improvement only.

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Helps users avoid performance loss from memory over-allocation.

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This pull request adds a crucial warning for a common LoRA misconfiguration where max_lora_rank is set higher than the adapter's actual rank, which can lead to significant performance degradation and memory over-allocation. The implementation is clean and placed correctly within the adapter loading logic. The warning message is informative and provides a clear, actionable solution to the user. This is an excellent diagnostic improvement that will help users avoid silent performance issues.

@chi2liu chi2liu force-pushed the feat/add-lora-performance-warning branch from 8119439 to bfa3a52 Compare August 13, 2025 04:22
@chi2liu chi2liu changed the title feat: warn when max_lora_rank exceeds actual rank. [Misc]: warn when max_lora_rank exceeds actual rank. Aug 13, 2025
@chi2liu chi2liu changed the title [Misc]: warn when max_lora_rank exceeds actual rank. [Misc] Warn when max_lora_rank exceeds actual rank. Aug 13, 2025
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We support multi-LoRA, where each LoRA has a different rank - it could be 16, or it could be 256. The max_lora_rank needs to be set to the maximum rank. So I think the warning in this PR is unreasonable

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chi2liu commented Aug 13, 2025

We support multi-LoRA, where each LoRA has a different rank - it could be 16, or it could be 256. The max_lora_rank needs to be set to the maximum rank. So I think the warning in this PR is unreasonable

@jeejeelee You're right - I didn't think through the multi-LoRA dynamic loading case properly. When serving multiple
LoRAs with different ranks, max_lora_rank needs to handle the largest one, and having smaller ranks is completely
normal.

Instead of runtime warnings, would it make sense to add a brief doc note? Something like:

  • Set max_lora_rank to your highest LoRA rank
  • Don't set it way higher than needed - wastes memory and can cause hard-to-debug perf issues
  • Example: For LoRAs with ranks [16, 32, 64], use --max-lora-rank 64, not 256

What do you think?

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jeejeelee commented Aug 13, 2025

Nice, we can add the related notes in the end of lora doc

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@chi2liu chi2liu changed the title [Misc] Warn when max_lora_rank exceeds actual rank. [Doc] Add max_lora_rank configuration guide Aug 13, 2025
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chi2liu commented Aug 13, 2025

Nice, we can add the related notes in the end of lora doc

Thanks for the feedback! I've removed the code changes and only kept the documentation addition as you suggested.
The new section explains how to properly configure max_lora_rank and warns about performance implications of setting it too high.
Please take a look and let me know if you have any suggestions for the docs.

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## Configuring `max_lora_rank`
## Configuring `max_lora_rank`
## Using Tips
### Configuring `max_lora_rank`

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- **Example**: If your LoRA adapters have ranks [16, 32, 64], use `--max-lora-rank 64` rather than 256
For example, if your LoRA adapters have ranks [16, 32, 64], use `--max-lora-rank 64` rather than 256

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@chi2liu chi2liu force-pushed the feat/add-lora-performance-warning branch from 597ee35 to b6159ea Compare August 13, 2025 09:01
@chi2liu chi2liu requested a review from jeejeelee August 13, 2025 09:02
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LGTM, thank you for contribution

@jeejeelee jeejeelee added the ready ONLY add when PR is ready to merge/full CI is needed label Aug 13, 2025
@jeejeelee jeejeelee enabled auto-merge (squash) August 13, 2025 10:12
@vllm-bot vllm-bot merged commit 3f52738 into vllm-project:main Aug 13, 2025
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